Trail and Ultra Daily News, Wed, Aug 17

Trail and Ultra Running Daily News From Around the World

With all the Olympic coverage, something slipped past a lot of us: The Audi Power of Four Trail Run in Colorado a few weeks ago. From what I can tell, this was an automaker’s first real foray into sponsoring a trail and ultra event. Will we see more of this bleed over? Hopefully they had a positive ROI and other companies will put up cash for organization and rewards. More props for having a stated drug policy.

Wait, I’ve had this dream before: Trail running with Emma Coburn.

The most famous (possible tainted) records in Olympic history.

These are the columns from David Roche that I love so much: Learn to run slow to run fast.

More on ultras and cannabis, from Avery and Jenn. Avery insists he’s not high while racing, while Jenn seems pretty open about her in-competition use.

This. This why Jean is able to perform at such a high level as a Masters runner. His recovery is dialed.

We could talk about politics, religion, gun control, abortion, or maybe whether or not a fat adapted diet works for athletics.

Mont Blanc tourists treating mountain “like theme park.” Heh. Welcome to Lake Tahoe on the weekends. Do you have a similar situation?

102 year old woman reveals her secret to longevity. (Psst, it rhymes with deer.)

The Dirty German Ultra Fest in Philadelphia. Good venue for a lederhosen 50M world record?

Speaking of outfits, do you know why female volleyball players wear bikinis? Because they want to.

Fifteen hilarious track and field GIFs to set the mood for Hump Day.

Belgian dentist breaks the PCT record.

Recording new interview today with top ten finisher from Eastern States Endurance Run.

25 Responses to "Trail and Ultra Daily News, Wed, Aug 17"

Todd says:

August 17, 2016 at 7:11 am

Take out the word Cannabis in the article and replace it with EPO. If there truly is performance enhancing benefits from Marijuana then they are doping.

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  August 17, 2016 at 7:24 am
  
  EPO is illegal both in and out of competition. Not so with THC.
  My point is that Avery has always contended that he only smokes while training, never in competition. Jenn goes all in and claims benefits from it while racing.
  
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  1. Todd says:
    
    August 17, 2016 at 7:36 am
    
    Point is, if there is a performance enhancing benefit (a claim not scientifically proven) it should be banned. THC is banned in competition and Jenn admits smoking it during. I am sure she is not the only one. Therefore, in every other athletic endeavor she would be banned for doping. I just think its funny how everyone wants to have ultrarunning be a “clean” sport but gives a pass to certain things like THC and prescription pain pills. Either it is a clean sport or not.
    
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    1. eric schranz says:
      
      August 17, 2016 at 7:48 am
      
      There is no clean sport. There’s just a line that’s moved around, depending on what/who we’re talking about.
      
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      1. Todd says:
        
        August 17, 2016 at 7:51 am
        
        In that case, why draw a line at all?
      2. eric schranz says:
        
        August 17, 2016 at 7:57 am
        
        Well that’s the big question, and the reason I’ve flip-flopped nearly 180 degrees on the issue. We (including me) freak out at athletes busted for certain drugs, while others are allowed to use (Rx, TUEs, etc) with reckless abandon. My very strong and secure stance (wink) is: There’s no reasonable answer to the problem other than to trust people to do the right thing, and we know that’s not gonna happen.
    2. Joe says:
      
      August 17, 2016 at 10:40 am
      
      Under your logic, aspirin and caffeine should be banned too.
      
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      1. eric schranz says:
        
        August 17, 2016 at 10:52 am
        
        Hardly. I’m more prone to go the other way.
      2. Al says:
        
        August 17, 2016 at 1:50 pm
        
        I think a lot of people miss the point about cannabis use. I used before I ran ultras, when I was just hiking in the bush. Were you smashing down 16 ibuprofen before you started ultras? I enjoy a day outside stoned. If people want to be dicks about that, then they’ll have to get used to having less people at races.
      3. Quinten says:
        
        August 17, 2016 at 4:43 pm
        
        I think the real question is not which PEDs to ban, but how do you decide that a PED is bad for the sport. I think people are losing sight of the bigger question because of their personal reaction to certain drugs, turning the argument into a for or against debate about cannabis.
        
        What makes EPO such a hated drug but caffeine is OK? Do we look at the effect that the drug has on a person’s health and use that as a basis for banning?
        
        What made EPO get banged in the first place? If it’s just unfair advantage then suddenly the best option would be to allow it and let everyone compete in a level footing using the same drugs. But if it’s because of health implications and the fact that everyone would need to put themselves as risk just to stay competitive, then it might be worth banning. However, in that case I think cannabis should be allowed until studies show major health implications of cannabis consumption, regardless of my personal views about it’s use.
      4. Michael Jimenez says:
        
        August 17, 2016 at 9:47 pm
        
        Great post!
      5. Michael Jimenez says:
        
        August 17, 2016 at 9:51 pm
        
        In reference to why certain drugs should be banned, because the advantage gained is unfair to those that don’t want to use either for moral or health reasons. It’s akin to stealing, and I shouldn’t have to risk my short term or long term health to be competitive. Hard work should be what we use to run to our potential.
      6. Quinten says:
        
        August 17, 2016 at 10:17 pm
        
        But banning a PED should not be based on a moral decision. Just because you don’t want to use the PED doesn’t mean others can’t. We should judge the decision based on the PED impact on the sport and the medical implications that are proven.
        
        You say you “shouldn’t have to risk my short term or long term health to be competitive.” I totally agree, but cannabis use has no health implications. The use of that is a moral question, even though it can be a PED.
        I choose not to consume caffeine because I don’t like what it does to my heart rate and blood pressure. It is a performance enhancing drug, so should I ban other from using it? No, oh course not. There are PEDs which are acceptable and others which aren’t. How do we decide where that line in the sand is that divides them?
        
        Do we ban PEDs if they aid us to physically push through (caffeine, ibuprofen etc), ban them if they improve our training (epos etc), ban them if they give you a buzz (cannabis). How do we decide what to ban? It can’t be based on morals.
  2. Sam in Oakland says:
    
    August 17, 2016 at 2:41 pm
    
    Given the pot-politics underneath this, may I reference the Gary Johnson shout-out on Twitter? If he does happen to agree to be interviewed can I request some questioning about how the Libertarian Party understands policies around federal parkland? I’m genuinely curious about how the party thinks about public spaces and trails. I get the (perhaps incorrect) sense that most libertarians are highly cynical about federal land use (hence the party’s appeal to western voters, i.e. ranchers, farmers, etc.). I would love to learn more about what the party thinks in terms of trail systems, the interaction between regional, state, and federal open space, and their understanding of public natural space more generally.
    
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2. Doug says:
  
  August 17, 2016 at 7:31 am
  
  EPO ups the amount of red blood cells that carry oxygen. Not the same at all.
  
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Gib Kentz says:

August 17, 2016 at 8:15 am

The only reason Audi is a sponsor is because its tied to the Aspen Skiing Company. Audi sponsors many events that happen on Aspen Mt. mostly skiing events. Audi is also the official car of Aspen Skiing Company.Reference

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  August 17, 2016 at 8:19 am
  
  Ah, thanks for the clarification. Well, dangit, I thought maybe they were looking to get into the scene.
  
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Ziemo says:

August 17, 2016 at 12:33 pm

Support crew was only 1 guy on a motorcycle for the PCT FKT???

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Mark says:

August 17, 2016 at 12:48 pm

Dirty German was a fun time this year. Although it might be too flat for you…

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Ron says:

August 17, 2016 at 3:37 pm

Take a red Todd.

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skott says:

August 18, 2016 at 8:02 am

so, in that regard, isn’t it a PED? if being used in the race itself? or would it be something akin to a salt tab or sports drink?Reference

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