Ultramarathon Daily News, Mon, Apr 10 – Ultrarunnerpodcast

Ultramarathon News: Monday, April 10, 2017

Excellent advice: What Chris Mocko wishes he knew before his first ultramarathon.

Just like in an ultramarathon distance, life has it’s bumps and blips and it’s our ability to adapt and overcome them that makes it special. Here’s Scotty’s latest installment from the trailhead.

Cole Watson beats Max King in road 10 miler. I’m anxious to see more from this guy. Fast legs, coached Trails and Tarmac, and pretty solid on the trails.

Maybe the next ultramarathon diet trend? Bugs.

Gift idea or a new read for you? Ten books on hiking and nature written by women.

DBo bags a 100 mile win in Croatia, Caroline takes National Champion honors in the 100k, and URP reviewer Jade wins a 50k in Southern California. All the weekend running ultramarathon and trail results from Justin/iRunFar.

Are you enjoying reading Rickey Gates’ musings from the road/trail/river as much as I am? I hope he keeps them up along his entire journey. #transamericana

ultramarathon — ~~Kaci Lickteig~~ Unidentified runner at Western States river crossing, 2014.

Avery Collins and Dave Mackey sit down to discuss the whole PED thing. I haven’t listened to it and probably won’t so someone fill me in?

Walmsley punched his ticket to Western with a Golden Ticket win at Gorge Waterfalls, making the lead up to late June all the more exciting. Full results here. I saw the excitement of Jurek, then Anton, Geoff, Timothy, and Rob, but Jim seems to be on a different level. Do you agree?

One could argue that if such a thing as a mountain-ultra-trail running aptitude exam exists, then that test is the Barkley Marathons.

Here’s Brandon Stapanowich’s report from Barkley. And here’s our interview with Brandon from 2014 after he completed Nolan’s 14.

Speaking of Barkley, I recorded an interview with finisher John Kelly on Friday and will release later today. You want stories of despair and fatigue? Got it!

Amy writes about running while female. Some friends and I just had a discussion about this last night…whether single women feel safer running in the middle of nowhere (no people, no bad guys) or more near people (more people, possible bad guys.) The women in our group all chose the latter. How about you?

This travel writer had a tough assignment: Go out and find the best surf and yoga retreats around the world.

CleanSport: Is it a lack of will or a lack of way that’s preventing sports from cleaning up its act?

22 Responses to "Ultramarathon Daily News, Mon, Apr 10 – Ultrarunnerpodcast"

Tim says:

April 10, 2017 at 6:26 am

It’s official. Runners have the worst taste in music.Reference

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Sarah Lavender Smith says:

April 10, 2017 at 7:09 am

This report is so well written. Bravo Brandon Stapanowich! His descriptions captured the mid-loop scenes and feel better than any other reports I’ve read.Reference

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Singletrack Guy says:

April 10, 2017 at 7:12 am

Depends on if Walmsley can last. The only guys in that group that you mentioned with a long career at the very top was Jurek. They overrace and/or get interested in other things. I was super stoked about Dakota Jones being the American Killian once too.

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1. Jack says:
  
  April 10, 2017 at 1:05 pm
  
  No, it does not depend on if Walmsley can last. The statement and question was “… Jim seems to be on a different level. Do you agree?” When he’s crushed every single race with a new CR over a 16 month period, except for the one that he missed a turn on, he IS on a different level. This is Jim’s time, now.
  
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  1. eric schranz says:
    
    April 10, 2017 at 1:52 pm
    
    Exactly. I’m not looking long term, but right now, last year and this year, he’s performing on a different level than other guys have in the past. Against stout competition, no less.
    
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Ryan says:

April 10, 2017 at 7:57 am

I listened to the podcast with Avery and Dave. Both Avery and Dave were very respectful and honest with each other, and Avery provided a lot of good information regarding his use.

I did have a problem with one of the interviewers tone towards Dave, which seemed kind of disrespectful to me, but other than that, I really enjoyed the interview.

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varner says:

April 10, 2017 at 9:42 am

that’s almost certainly not Kaci…Reference

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Rachel says:

April 10, 2017 at 9:45 am

May be a result of growing up in a small town on the edge of wilderness, but I always feel safer in the middle of nowhere than I do running in/near the city. I would choose bears and mountain lions over bad guys any day, but maybe the risk we are more familiar with always seems more reasonable…

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1. Sommer Johansen says:
  
  April 10, 2017 at 11:00 am
  
  Same! I was kind of surprised that the women in that group all felt the opposite. The chance of an actual dangerous wild animal encounter is very small, and as long as you educate yourself and don’t do anything stupid, I think it’s harder to get into trouble. Meanwhile, besides the fear of “bad guys”, catcalling and stupid drivers are almost enough to make me not want to leave my house sometimes. And that’s not even taking into consideration that running in the woods/middle of nowhere is just inherently so. much. better.
  
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Herbert Wingfield says:

April 10, 2017 at 9:47 am

Anyone curious about the bug eating advantage check out this podcast with Vinnie Tortorich #NSNG where a very educated British guy uses edible bugs. Yes, he is a runner and brain cancer surviver.
https://vinnietortorich.com/2016/04/managing-sickness-with-a-ketogenic-diet-andrew-scarborough/. Very inspirational.

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Alicia says:

April 10, 2017 at 9:49 am

+1 to what Alex said….but it’s a great picture regardless! Looking forward to listening to the interview with Dave!

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  April 10, 2017 at 9:54 am
  
  Really? I figured it was. Duh, I”m looking at it again, and it’s totally not Kaci. Oops! I didn’t take pic, it was by a pro photog shooting for URP. Any ID?
  
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  1. Alicia says:
    
    April 11, 2017 at 9:24 am
    
    I’m not sure who it is…maybe Kaci’s long lost twin!? 🙂 It definitely looks like her from the back but a different kit than she would have been repping.
    
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Ethan Salter says:

April 10, 2017 at 10:35 am

I listened to the Dave/Avery interview and found it compelling. Good of the interviewers to be able to get them in the same room, that was really cool.

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Allen Lucas says:

April 10, 2017 at 11:20 am

After looking at my Last Chance pictures from that year, I’m pretty sure that’s Beth Cardelli from Australia (#18, finished in just under 22 hours).Reference

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Chris says:

April 10, 2017 at 12:53 pm

Glad I’m not the only one not interested in the Mackey/Collins conversation. I felt Dave’s initial social media post was lacking in facts regarding WADA’s stance on THC (like far too many posting in doping threads regarding cannabis use), and Avery’s response was unnecessarily harsh when much of the controversy is solely based on old information about WADA’s stance on marijuana.

Let’s also not forget that many of the benefits of marijuana in ultras such as pain killing and anti-nausea can be found in CBD products that would allow someone to use these products and still pass any drug test. I haven’t used CBD alone to know whether it works better than advil/ginger for pain/nausea during competition. The confusion of those who live in States still under weed prohibition is understandable and those of us who have been exposed to this new fascinating industry should be able to explain the nuances without jumping into personal attacks.

I’m sure there are plenty of people who use marijuana products that run ultras. I myself love a THC/CBD lollipop to help me get some extra sleep post race when I struggle to get comfortable in bed.

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  April 10, 2017 at 1:52 pm
  
  Yes, yes, agreed, yup, positive, yes, affirmative, you betcha. Me too.
  
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Paul Flanders says:

April 10, 2017 at 1:01 pm

I hope Gates publishes a book about the TransAmerica I’ll bet it would be a great read.

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  April 10, 2017 at 1:51 pm
  
  I agree. Wonder if he’s available to chat while on his run? (I’ll try soon.)
  
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Nelson says:

April 11, 2017 at 5:37 am

Jim on a different level? I don’t know. He’s certainly been on a different level than the people he’s lined up against. The other ultrarunning stars mentioned here faced the strongest ultrarunners of their time, and I think Walmsley still has to do that. UTMB will finally give us the measure of Jim against the best trail runners in the world.

But Jurek, Roes, and the rest were true beasts too. Roes won and set course records in the first 8 hundred milers he run. And I’m one of those people who think hundred miler performance is the measure of a trail ultrarunner.

But so far Walmsley seems unstoppable. It wouldn’t be a surprise if he destroyed the field at UTMB. It also wouldn’t be a surprise if he went down in flames. We’ll see. There’ll be plenty of top talent there to make for a memorable race.

One thing I wish, though, is for Hoka One One to take a similar initiative as Salomon with regards to drug testing. When someone is performing so far ahead of the competition as Walmsley, I think it’s in everyone’s benefit to have them cleared (or busted).

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  April 11, 2017 at 7:35 am
  
  Yeah, I think he’s on a different level than Roes, Anton, and most of the others. The competition level now is so much higher than it was, and Jim is destroying the fields. Now that said….I still really want to see him line up against Kilian and Zach and see what happens.
  
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  1. Nelson says:
    
    April 11, 2017 at 8:44 am
    
    … and Luis Alberto, Ludovic, Grinius, Thevenard, Francois … Plenty of top talent at UTMB this year.
    
    Respectfully, it will be the first truly deep field Walmsley faces. Also the first 20+ hour race (although he may decide to take a couple of hours from the CR, you never known :D).
    
    Anton didn’t achieve as much success as he deserved. A runner crossing the finish line 6 minutes behind Killian at Cavals is a very unique talent. Injuries and managing his career in a way that was true to himself instead of trying to make the most impact I think makes a lot of people underestimate Anton.
    
    I’m not the biggest Anton fan, but I do admire his authenticity. He’s inspiring in a very different way than Miller, Canaday or Walmsley.
    
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