Ultramarathon Daily News | Mon, Nov 21

All the results from the trail and ultramarathon world from this past weekend. Sarah Biehl smashes Ellie Greenwood’s JFK record?!? Whoa! And here’s Justin Mock’s (iRunFar) rundown from the weekend.

What happens if two teams tie in a XC race? This should be the method in which it’s resolved.

Track stud Eilish McColgan wants more research done on female athletes’ menstrual cycles and Malissa Rodenburg (Trailrunner Mag) writes about how hormonal contraceptives affects workouts and performance.

You stick to your ultrasignup rankings. I’ll be pouring over which apple is best. (Cosmic Crisp for me please!)

“I constantly have to remind people that they’re addressing me, but I have no knowledge of how that beer is made; I only know how to drink the beers,” said Steve. “So I have to direct them to the head brewer, the brew queen.”

–-Great story about a husband and wife-led brewery in Texas.

Join Billy Yang as he runs (and eats) his way thru the Thai trail scene.

Ultrarunning Magazine: Where are the 2021 male UROYs and what have they been up to?

An open letter to the MUT community from nonbinary athletes. Trailrunner Magazine puts out some fine articles, but for this subject it’s essentially just an advocacy rag isn’t it? I’ve never seen them publish a dissenting opinion on the issue, comments are turned off, and it wasn’t posted to Twitter, negating any chance of discourse or discussion on their coverage.

Excellent essay on why and how a visually impaired hiker enjoys the outdoors.

The saga over Camille’s 100 mile record at Jackpot Ultra deepens.

Anyone know if railbiking is a thing people can do anywhere other than Patagonia? It looks like such a great way to see backcountry, but I’d want to ensure the tracks are clear of trains, ya know?

Kevin Beck sits down with Derrick Lytle for a wide-ranging interview about sports media, training, and more. My name and this very page were mentioned a few times and I appreciate the context.

Adharanand Finn writes about running UTMB.

YouTube/Rafols: Sara Alonso picking her way down some insanely technical terrain in Madeira. A commenter on YouTube pointed out that providing strategic information to runners is against the rules. Anyone know what the actual rules are for this?

If you film someone running an ultra for long enough, chances are they’ll stop to pee at some point. Exhibit A.

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6 Responses to "Ultramarathon Daily News | Mon, Nov 21"

Andrew says:

November 21, 2022 at 9:18 am

Two things – cumulative time of the top 5 runners is the fairest tie breaker.

The far left has long given up on any discourse on the trans or anti binary movement. If you do anything other than aggressively support them, you are transphobic and must be canceled. That is beyond debate at this point.

P.S. it’s not a coincidence that hyper liberal movements like this are tied to trying to take away guns, which anyone who knows anything about history knows it’s the first thing you do when you want create a totalitarian government. A citizenry with no way to defend itself won’t be a citizenry for long. There is not, to my knowledge, a single nation that was taken from within by a dictatorship, who didn’t start by first taking away the citizens’ means of defense…it’s only “an exaggeration” until it happens and no one ever thinks it’s going to be them.

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Mark N says:

November 21, 2022 at 9:40 am

My first reaction to this new info is that Camille H. who always comes across as a genuine human and definitely a phenom has suffered “damages” in a legal sense from the standpoint her record was voided. That she is a decent and incredible athlete is an obvious given but jeez, she should be afforded some legal representation (via Hoka?) to petition for an investigation. Not that she seems a litigious person and I know introducing that potential is rife with potential image problems but seems like an abrogation of justice is now tethered to this situation in my limited brain. It too seems like her corporate team that realizes benefits from her devotion to the sport of running and measurable achievements is impacted to a degree but no one is going to go down that road without repercussions. However, (especially since there is some background now that just seems worthy of scrutiny) I think she has a legit grievance to petition for a independent review. I imagine some people that are biased and not “fans” of this opinion or of her (why they might not be fans would stupefy me, but whatever) would think this frivolous but the action on-scene in real time to re-remeasure the course, on its face, seems really arbitrary. Camille has every right to be stressed out about this. I would be too.

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Matt says:

November 21, 2022 at 9:41 am

“Cosmic Crisp”? Are you sure you’re following rankings for apples, and not strains of cannabis?

One thing that’s not being debated, I see, is hot sauce. Viva Cholula!

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Aaron says:

November 21, 2022 at 12:02 pm

During UTMB live stream one of the cameras picked up Zach Miller taking a leak while he was still running. Runners don’t know when they’re actually ‘on air’ even though cameras follow them for hours.

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Scott H says:

November 21, 2022 at 7:36 pm

Eric, it’s discouraging that you are holding the opposing viewpoint to a different standard. You criticize TrailRunner for not allowing comments or posting their column to a platform where it can be discussed, yet on your own platform you decline to engage with the actual content of the piece. You also fail to acknowledge that a valid reason for their no-comments choice may be the hateful or even threatening comments they are likely to draw, yet you’ve gone out of your way to mention how people who share your views are reluctant to post public comments here for fear of criticism. And finally, I think it does your platform a disservice when you uncritically post deranged, misogynistic and ad hominem rants by Kevin Beck under the guise of “just sharing an interesting take” yet fail to extend the same neutrality or benefit of the doubt to pieces like this one.

As for Andrew’s comment, no one’s coming for your guns, dude. Sure, you can probably find some ultra left-wing types who want to confiscate all firearms, just like there are ultra right-wingers who think ordinary folk should have access to military grade weapons (see defeated Washington Congressional candidate Joe Kent), but the vast majority of progressives — heck, of *Americans* — just want to see some common-sense gun laws so our schools, workplaces, and nightclubs don’t become target practice for whack jobs. You somehow fail to notice the dozens of liberal democracies around the world that have banned or heavily restricted firearms and yet somehow haven’t slid into the clutches of totalitarianism. As The Onion so succinctly puts it: “No Way to Prevent This, Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens.” Moreover, there is one characteristic that virtually all authoritarian governments share, and that is intolerance and oppression of their LGBTQ communities: China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Nazi Germany… Oh, and speaking of which, right here in the US of A, dozens of laws from Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” to those banning trans kids from participating in school sports have proliferated faster than any gun restrictions. Stop pretending that reasonable gun laws are anything more than a minor inconvenience to fired-up dude-bros who want to cosplay Call of Duty and maybe focus on the real struggles faced by kids and people who just want to live their lives without being bullied, harassed, beaten, or murdered.

P.S. — Cosmically bad timing posting this pro-gun, anti-trans take the day after some nutter murdered five people and wounded 18 others in an LGBTQ nightclub. Oh, and who was stopped by an Army vet who was there with his family watching a drag performance by one of his daughter’s friends.

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Adam Priest says:

November 24, 2022 at 12:01 pm

It’s laughable that you’re criticizing Trailrunner Mag for the lack of discussion, but you continue to be silent when you’re called out on your BS, only to drop little comments in subsequent “news” articles of how you really feel. Why don’t you just write out your full thoughts in an article instead? You seem to dip your toe in the water for discussion and then run away when you don’t like the response.

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