Ultramarathon Daily News | Monday, Jan 28

Justin/IRF runs down all the results from the trail and ultramarathon events from this past weekend.

And not an ultra, but worthy of a mention: From the excellent Fast Women Newsletter by Alison Wade: Competing against professional runners, Katelyn Tuohy broke the high school indoor 3,000m record on Saturday, running 9:01.81 at the Dr. Sander Invitational Columbia Challenge at NYC’s Armory Track & Field Center. Tuohy ran an aggressive race, leading some of the middle laps, but she was ultimately outkicked by professional runners Amanda Eccleston (8:56.68) and Heather Kampf (8:56.87).

Excellent interview with OG Dick Beardsley.

Gear reviewer Sarah checks out the Ledlenser Neo10R and loves it. Pull quote: “I highly recommend picking up the Ledlenser Neo10R. and do not think you will be in any way disappointed by the purchase. It’s a high quality, high output light, for a fraction of the price of more well known brands.”

IAU: No 100k European Championships for 2019. Probably not a big surprise.

If you’re on a desktop, check out the right sidebar for an ever-increasing list of podcast directories/platforms on which to find URP. And please, feel free to recommend your favorite. (We’re currently pending for Pandora and IHeartRadio.)

How was your weekend? Lucho seemed to have found a new and “adequate modality for suffering.”

If you’re interested in the back end of the podcasting industry, you might find this article interesting: Why top ten lists are harming the podcast industry.

An open letter to RDs from the back of the pack. What do you think?

Compelling: Stulberg writes about the performance paradox in which athletes try so hard and work so hard at something…then perform at their peak with little effort. Interesting stuff that’s applicable to any exercise.

Jam Jam’s Mountain Outhouse News. Dbo at Hong Kong, Jasmin Paris at the Spine, Walmsley at Houston, and the return of Rob Krar’s Beard twitter account.

While not on the same level as Jimbo (though arguable with age grading), Jean is 25 years older and is still a prolific ultramarathon runner who lines up for road races regularly and performs at a high level. Here’s his most recent race.

Personal: With two exceptions (mom’s turkey pasta and some SPAM for a cultural festival for 1st graders), I’ve been meat free for almost a month. What’s surprised me is how not hard it’s been. I’ve increased my greens and beans, tried out a few meat replacements (bean and lentil “burgers” last night) and even tried the Carl’s Jr. (Hardees) Beyond burger. While I don’t see this is a forever thing, and while my history with moderation isn’t good, this experiment is teaching me that I don’t need to eat meat every night to be satiated and happy and still excited by food. On the advice of many, I bought the Thug Kitchen cookbook, and the recipes have been OK. Not great, but OK. Any other cookbooks to recommend that don’t include massive lists of exotic and expensive ingredients and/or two hour prep times? Bonus if they don’t read like a teenager who’s allowed to use profanity for the first time. Thanks.

43 Responses to "Ultramarathon Daily News | Monday, Jan 28"

David J says:

January 28, 2019 at 6:53 am

My wife and I tried the Beyond burger last week. It’s not fantastic, but it’s not bad which is saying something considering some of the other products in that space!

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1. Bryan Jolly says:
  
  January 28, 2019 at 6:28 pm
  
  The Impossible Burger is killing the Beyond Burgers. Way tastier and a much meatier texture.
  
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Karen Green says:

January 28, 2019 at 6:55 am

Had same reaction as you to “Thug Kitchen.”

When I’m short on time I cook mostly out of Matt Fitzgerald’s “Racing Weight” and Shalane Flanagan’s/Elyse Kopecky’s “Run Fast. Cook Fast. Eat Slow.”

Highly recommend both.

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1. Fran McCormick says:
  
  January 28, 2019 at 10:19 am
  
  Would that be the Racing Weight book, or the Racing Weight Cookbook? I see they are two different products.
  
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Scott says:

January 28, 2019 at 7:01 am

As long as the runner is staying ahead of published cut-offs, the back of the pack runners have every right to complain.

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  January 28, 2019 at 7:29 am
  
  I agree.
  Here’s an example though. Second to last runner comes thru and the next (DFL) is an hour out. Is it OK to start breaking down the aid station, or should it remain just as it was for the first runner?
  
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  1. Jeroen Rozeboom says:
    
    January 28, 2019 at 7:49 am
    
    They deserve to get the promised support, the “how” of it is a different story. The experience of the winner is completely different than of the back of the pack no matter what you do.
    
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  2. Josh McVey (@y3rsh) says:
    
    January 28, 2019 at 8:28 am
    
    We do this all the time. In long races you track the runners, especially in trail races marathon and over. Yes we break down the aid station but we still have chäir and the full selection of aid. It will look a little different but that is all. We greet the runner, lie to them about how great they look, and hopefully get them on their way quickly. It is not a big deal if you expect it.
    
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2. Jeremy P says:
  
  January 28, 2019 at 8:27 am
  
  The author wasn’t really clear whether he was ahead of cutoffs. Considering he didn’t really talk about cutoffs at all, and categorically stated that RDs should avoid setting up before ALL runners are through, I’m guessing he wasn’t.
  
  The issue is really quite straightforward. If you’re past the cutoffs, you don’t get to complain about the race packing up. If you’re ahead of the cutoffs, the aid stations should still be up and running. I’m not convinced that any races are packing up early, though.
  
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  1. Melissa F says:
    
    January 29, 2019 at 11:23 am
    
    in the comments on his article he states that he was in the cutoff time and that’s what he’s focused on – the back of the pack that is within the cutoffs. I’m a 4:40 marathoner (slow but not what Martinus is focused on) and I have still seen some of these issues. It’s bad race management i think.
    
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jeroen Rozeboom says:

January 28, 2019 at 7:10 am

On the back of the pack thing: I guess if a runner is within cutoff times they deserve the support, timing facilities and medal. If the organisation does not want to wait 7 hours for the last marathoner they should reduce the cutoff times or introduce an qualifying time.

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SDA says:

January 28, 2019 at 7:26 am

I am a big fan of cookieandkate.com. Love all her recipes.

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1. Todd says:
  
  January 28, 2019 at 9:21 am
  
  I’d 2nd that one.
  This coming from a committed meat eater
  
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Josh McVey (@y3rsh) says:

January 28, 2019 at 7:27 am

I listen to Martinus’ podcast and learn from his perspective. Race directors must decide if their race will accommodate slower participants. In longer races, this is a significant investment of time. My local club the Lawrence Trail Hawks thinks it is worth it and we have generous cutoffs. We have built a culture that welcomes hares and tortoises. We benefit from an inclusive community.

Not every race can afford to accommodate everyone. Trail races cannot usually accommodate wheelchairs. Race permits may only be for a fixed duration. Volunteer time is scarce. So, race directors, please have a stated cutoff in your race description and don’t shortchange people that use all the time.

If a race director just doesn’t want slow folks in their race, that is fine too, but you are probably an asshole.

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Matt Baker says:

January 28, 2019 at 7:37 am

Also agree on Thug Kitchen! Would highly recommend “Isa Does It”. Has a ton of tasty meals, and introduced me to a whole new list of ingredients that I now could not live without.

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  January 28, 2019 at 8:25 am
  
  Thanks. With a surname like yours, I’m inclined to believe you.
  
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  1. Thomas Brock says:
    
    January 28, 2019 at 8:56 am
    
    Isa Does It is amazing.
    
    Also, try the Impossible Burger if you can find it. It’s the most “meat burger” experience we’ve had.
    
    Separately, I hope all is well with your eye/brain business that got MRIed.
    
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2. Ryan says:
  
  January 28, 2019 at 4:32 pm
  
  Isa’s stuff is fantastic. Lots of great stuff on her website, and the mentioned book is great too- I use it a lot. A few of her recipes are complex, but most are fairly easy. Her Red Lentil Thai Chili is a standby for my wife and me- easy to make, super tasty, and lasts us a few days.
  
  https://www.isachandra.com/2010/12/red-lentil-thai-chili/
  
  Minimalist Baker has some good stuff too.
  
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3. Doug H says:
  
  January 28, 2019 at 8:00 pm
  
  I’m also on the Isa Does It train! Oh She Glows has some great recipes, but Isa is 10x easier to follow and just as good.
  
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Jacob says:

January 28, 2019 at 7:51 am

The name is a little cringe worthy but our go to is Oh She Glows Every Day Cookbook by Angela Liddon. Her other cookbook is great too, but that one is probably a better place to start for your needs. There are four recipes in there – lentil mushroom bolognese, soba noodle salad, sweet potato coconut curry, and sub-dried tomato pasta – that alone make the 20 bucks worth it.

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  January 28, 2019 at 8:24 am
  
  That’s the type of recommendation I’m looking for!
  The other requirement I have is that the recipes scale well. For whatever reason, I’ve found that many veg cookbooks are big on “meals for one or two” while I’m trying to feed a family of 4 with an appetite for eight.
  
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  1. Jacob says:
    
    January 28, 2019 at 9:35 am
    
    Almost all of the Oh She Glows recipes reliably give my wife and I four servings… albeit a dinner and a lunch for each of us.
    
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2. Steven Barnett says:
  
  January 28, 2019 at 10:51 am
  
  I second the Oh She Glows Recommendation and agree about the large portion sizes. I will add to your list the Black Bean Enchiladas with Avacado Cilantro Sauce. I am from the Southwest and the Mexican food was big hurdle to overcome when I went vegetarian/vegan 6 years ago. This recipe alone is worth the price of the book.
  
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  1. eric schranz says:
    
    January 28, 2019 at 10:54 am
    
    Thanks. Don’t need vegan though. We tried it for a few weeks and the kids still farted like crazy, so dairy wasn’t the problem. I’m assuming I could just replace real cheese/dairy with the fake stuff?
    
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    1. Steven Barnett says:
      
      January 28, 2019 at 12:39 pm
      
      The good thing about her recipes is she doesn’t really use any “fake” meats/dairy. It is just good quality real food that tastes really good. Now there is nothing saying you couldn’t add dairy to the recipes to make it more your preference. I have switched back and forth from Vegan and Vegetarian over the last few years for various reasons and the one thing I think I have really gained is experience with new ingredients in the kitchen. We find what we like and what we don’t and what our 6 year old will actually eat.
      
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Sara says:

January 28, 2019 at 8:14 am

Oh Thug Kitchen. The profanity was cute at first but with average tasting food, its not my favorite. I’m a lover of good food, with accessible and ADAPTABLE ingredient list. Here are two of my favorite books: Super Natural Every Day: Well-Loved Recipes from My Natural Foods Kitchen and Naturally Nourished. Both have an equally good blog component, 101 Cookbooks and My New Roots respectively.

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1. Thomas Brock says:
  
  January 28, 2019 at 8:57 am
  
  Absolutely agree on Thug Kitchen.
  
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Adam Reed says:

January 28, 2019 at 8:14 am

check out vegan richa, cookbook+website, enough to not get bored and pretty easy and quick

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edcrawfordlv says:

January 28, 2019 at 8:17 am

On the back of the pack:

I’m always at the back of the pack, i don’t know of this manned aid station thing you talk of.

Really though, most races are run on a shoe string budget and aid stations are run by volunteers. RD’s try and keep the course open as long as possible for the enjoyment of the runners. But the volunteers are free to go when ever, its not like the RD can force them to stay.

I volunteered at a tri-athalon that included a Half Iron distance. Me and the kids where at the last run aid station. It was brutal waiting for the last runner, I think everyone else was done before she got off the bike. Anyone whining about a lack of volunteers should at least volunteer at a race first.

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Nicolas says:

January 28, 2019 at 8:26 am

Minimalist Baker.

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Dan F says:

January 28, 2019 at 9:08 am

I’m with the other folks; if there’s an explicit time cutoff, there must be aid. It’s rare to see a road race have intermediate cutoffs as much as ultras do, but perhaps they should start doing that. I helped at an aid station at mile 60ish of a hundo and our leader came in at 2:30pm and the last runner who just missed the cut off came in at 1:15am. We still had aid to offer her despite not allowing her to continue. I do understand that road races have far stricter permits not allowing an unlimited amount of time and space to take though.

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Anna says:

January 28, 2019 at 10:18 am

Vegan For Everybody by America’s Test Kitchen. I have a ton of vegan cookbooks and this is the most reliable AND the most appealing to people who aren’t quite so deep into hippie vegan food! Mushroom Bolognese, chickpea noodle soup, pad Thai, Moroccan lentil soup, Baja cauliflower tacos… some favorites. Highly recommend!

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  January 28, 2019 at 10:55 am
  
  I’m not giving up dairy. anything of similar quality that still allows for real cheese? ( I LOVE CHEESE )
  
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maebarker says:

January 28, 2019 at 10:39 am

Hey Eric – I quickly read the article for RD’s as I will be directing my first 25k/50k trail run in April (here in Florida) – Angry Tortoise https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=59841 (you may recall I mentioned that I wanted to do when you interviewed Zach and me after RDL – Caleb didn’t accept my “on the air” proposal! 🙂 … here is my thought in response to that article… an RD should specifically state in race description the cut-off time and what runners may do after this time (e.g., can the runner continue self-supported but not be listed in results or have option of being picked up). A runner should not expect to be supported after posted cut-off nor expect an award if he/she did not meet the cut-off time. Also, if there were no cut-offs or finish lines, what would be the point of entering a race? Lots of anger broadcast in that piece… made my skin itch.

On another note, check out Mark Bittman’s How to Cook Everything Vegetarian. I love this cookbook. Also, learn how to make tempeh and tofu. I just had baked barbecue tofu for lunch on a sandwich (yummy) – so easy to make and is a great addition to most foods as well as good just as a snack. Also, tempeh is my favorite “meat substitute.” Also, eggs – can’t live without them. They are an inexpensive source of excellent protein.
Hope that helps 🙂
Mae

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Todd says:

January 28, 2019 at 10:49 am

Scott Jurek has some great recipes in his Eat and Run book–the lentil mushroom burger in particular comes to mind.

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  January 28, 2019 at 10:53 am
  
  I made the burgers and they were good but I think I spent $40 and two hours on the ingredients.
  
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Wade N says:

January 28, 2019 at 11:35 am

I recommend Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone by Deborah Madison and Chez Panisse Vegetables by Alice Waters. I think the recipes and ingredients are just complex enough to make them solid but not overly complicated and too time-consuming. Also, there’s lots to learn about produce and cooking in both of them.

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Clare Abram says:

January 28, 2019 at 11:42 am

yikes, my cookbook problem might be as bad as my ultrarunning problem 😉

Cookie and Kate is fabulous…both the book “Eat real food” and the blog…vegetarian food, focussed on real ingredients, right up my alley, its my #1. (nice blog layout without too many irritating ads). It would be a shorter list if I told you which recipes I hadn’t tried! The veggie enchiladas…super yummy
https://cookieandkate.com/2016/vegetarian-enchiladas-recipe/

Shalane Flanagans cook books Eat Slow (+/- cook fast) run fast…both awesome (slightly prefer the first one…eat slow, run fast). obviously not meat free but lots of options, and good nutritional advice.

Couldn’t live without my InstantPot either!

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vickith says:

January 28, 2019 at 5:42 pm

Check out the Oh She Glows cookbooks. Both are good, but the second one has more doable daily recipes. The website is very good as well.

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Alli says:

January 28, 2019 at 5:45 pm

Moosewood Restaurant Simple Suppers while not a vegetarian or vegan cookbook has many quick, easy and satisfying recipes many of which are vegetarian. I also wholeheartedly recommend Isa Does It! I’ve made almost every recipe in there and they’re delicious.

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David Witko says:

January 28, 2019 at 7:10 pm

My wife is a bit farther on the meatless scale than I am, but I have found that putting on enough BBQ Sauce makes anything taste pretty much like meat. I highly recommend “Devil’s Spit” by Famous Dave which can be found in most grocery stores.

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Colin Chapell says:

January 28, 2019 at 8:10 pm

If you’re looking for other podcast platforms that people pull from…I use Overcast (overcast.fm). Great, easy-to-use and customize platform with smart speed (minimizes pauses between words) options as well as the regular stuff.

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  January 29, 2019 at 9:33 am
  
  URP is on overcast right here.
  
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