Ultramarathon Daily News | Wed, Aug 16

How and why to warm up before your next trail race.

Once you’re warmed up and run a few dozen miles, here are three strategies to finishing strong during an ultramarathon.

Bobby throws some massive bombs at MUT YouTube content creators like Jamil, Sage, Mocko, and others. Geez, glad he didn’t zero in on podcasters.

Science: Fish survive winter by making their own booze.

“Smart clothing” is predicted to have massive growth in next few years. Still has minimal impact on run specialty’s largest growth sector: MUT running.

The top 10 get-out-of-adventure excuses. Weak, weak, weak.

Apparently there’s a debate about removable sports bra pads.

Just starting out in this silly sport? Here’s a primer on training for your first ultramarathon.

Took my first spin class in seven years last night. It doesn’t matter what kind of shape I’m in…those always hurt good.

Short news day today. What did I miss?

32 Responses to "Ultramarathon Daily News | Wed, Aug 16"

ChrisB says:

August 16, 2017 at 6:48 am

Poor Bobby, always insulting those who run faster and internet better than he does.

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1. Tomah says:
  
  August 16, 2017 at 10:31 am
  
  Doesn’t Bobby realize the blogging to get attention is so douchebag out of style.
  
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jjsobey says:

August 16, 2017 at 6:51 am

That bobby guy seems awefully worked up. Maybe he should go for a run.

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David Roche says:

August 16, 2017 at 6:53 am

I am guessing (hoping) this is satire, but this type of attitude is so counter-productive to a healthy MUT community as it grows.

This Saturday, I saw Sage at a race (he wasn’t running, just supporting others), and dozens of people came up to him and thanked him for what he did to make the sport more accessible. He took time with each person, asking them about their lives and running.

Mocko’s videos are viewed thousands of times because people like Chris, and his story inspires them. Mocko’s videos meant a lot to some people because he is relateable, funny, and kind.

I don’t know Jamil, but he seems like a fantastic person who makes MUT a better, more open place for lots of people.

The author’s definition of “community” needs to be broadened out to include everyone. There’s a place for vlogs, podcasts, and everything else, as long as they don’t attack others needlessly.

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  August 16, 2017 at 6:58 am
  
  I don’t think it’s satire, unfortunately.
  Not sure why this guy feels the need to attack others in the community who are helping create content for us to enjoy…often for free. It’s certainly a strange–and undesirable–personality quirk.
  
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  1. David Roche says:
    
    August 16, 2017 at 7:12 am
    
    YES! Thanks for all you do with URP. You (and URP’s guests) are basically my running partners.
    
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    1. Charlotte J says:
      
      August 17, 2017 at 7:24 am
      
      There is already so much negativity out there, I wish we could keep it out of running. We have a great community, full of diverse characters. I choose to focus on those spreading happy messages, sharing their enthusiasm and cheering others on.
      
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  2. John says:
    
    August 16, 2017 at 10:57 am
    
    Then why keep linking to his garbage? He creates these blog entries partially at least because he gets hits. If he really didn’t care about all this stuff then he wouldn’t have a freaking blog.
    
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    1. eric schranz says:
      
      August 16, 2017 at 11:23 am
      
      I present all opinions on this sport. Unfortunately, some are ridiculous.
      
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Zach says:

August 16, 2017 at 7:15 am

I don’t know Mocko but if I had to classify one an “ultra douchebag,” I don’t think it would be the guy spending his time unabashedly putting out goofy-ass videos to entertain and inspire people.

As for Jamil – guess what “Bobby” – I run a small business too. And the “life” surrounding that can be stressful, depressing, frustrating (and yes, sometimes rewarding.) What Jamil has expressed in his videos resonates with me. And the Mountain Outhouse? It’s supposed to be scripted. It’s a spoof show. It’s supposed to look like your high school news channel.

Sage’s videos? Generally not my thing. But why do you have to be a hater?

I hope you actually read this Bobby, because the only “ultra douchebag” I see here today is you.

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1. Teresa Smith says:
  
  August 17, 2017 at 7:37 am
  
  Well stated. Everyone faces struggles and to include these moments their vlog is the HUMAN factor. Sage, Billy, Jamil, Ethan, C-Money keep doing your thing.
  
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Will says:

August 16, 2017 at 7:26 am

Bobby’s site has a mission statement about flow and spirituality. How can one achieve the state of flow with so much built up inside?

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Andrew S says:

August 16, 2017 at 7:38 am

I’m just surprised that Bobby declared his love for Tim Tollefson after his article earlier this year lambasting any runner in MUT that has a road or track background… he’s essentially a cyber bully.

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Brian says:

August 16, 2017 at 7:44 am

I’ll be the counter to the other comments – one thing I agree with Bobby on is the whole “look at me”, “give me attention” complex that is part of the whole vlog, youtube channel community (and I don’t include Billy Yang in that). It is kind of like combining Kim Kardashian and Ultra-running (and you have to admit that Mocko’s shoe contract video preceding WS was pretty douche-bag).

I will admit to enjoying some of the content and I think there is a place for all of it out there. Bobby does sound like the old man on the porch, which he readily admits to. But it is perfectly fine for him to share his opinion. I’m sure there are lots of people out there who agree with him.

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1. Andrew S says:
  
  August 16, 2017 at 7:56 am
  
  I don’t disagree Brian. I just believe there’s a right and a wrong way to argue your opinion. If you resort to name calling, there is some credibility lost in my opinion.
  
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Scott says:

August 16, 2017 at 7:52 am

data isn’t updated on the website yet, but Mallory Brooks and Allison Macsas set the new FKT on Wonderland in 29:12:25

http://running.competitor.com/2017/08/news/new-womens-record-wonderland-trail_167202

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  August 16, 2017 at 8:27 am
  
  Dang, I missed that this morning. Thanks Scott.
  
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18342772 says:

August 16, 2017 at 8:09 am

If you aspire to the benefits of celebrity, you’re going to get the drawbacks as well. Maybe it’s unfair, but it is, as they say, what it is. Still, the “community” was never one homogeneous Pollyanna thing; but if you want a world of running with friends–or nobody else–in the woods, free from blogs and youtube and giving half a damn about any aspiring elite and the overpriced socks they’re pimping, that does still exist, thank god.

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scott says:

August 16, 2017 at 8:21 am

Which is worse: Someone hating people on social media while constantly consuming it or someone complaining about people wanting attention…on their blog.

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Nico says:

August 16, 2017 at 9:41 am

My impression of the YouTube content creators mentioned is less that they’re attention seeking and more that they’re trying to figure out how to make ends meet as a professional runner. Or in Jamil’s case how to promote their running business (Aravaipa). I’m guessing most would prefer to run more and make fewer, higher quality content pieces. But constant content creation is better for business. Considering how difficult it is to make a living as a runner, criticizing them for making YouTube content seems like adding insult (literally) to injury.

Also, a lot the content is pretty good. So there’s also that.

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Lee says:

August 16, 2017 at 10:04 am

“When Runner and Mountain become one… Flow is achieved.”
Anyone that has this as a subtitle to their blog probably shouldn’t be criticizing others…….just saying.

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Mike says:

August 16, 2017 at 10:14 am

I get the feeling Bobby watched Billy Lang videos and perhaps GR back in the day and wished he had the skill to put something quality like that together. So it must come as a shock to see content being created now that is given praise despite not nearly the effort that some of those productions received. Why didn’t he think of that? Or better yet, all those people suck. That’s much easier to digest.

Mocko puts himself on the line, has a dream, quits his job (something that makes it much easier to find a relationship, another goal of his), chases that dream with such aggression that he comes under fire from his own coaches and then achieves at a portion of his ultimate goal in signing a shoe deal. I felt his video was RAW (something you aren’t going to get a lot of editing) and his emotions genuine.

Some people it seems just can’t stomach others’ successes.

“An inferiority complex is a lack of self-worth, a doubt and uncertainty about oneself, and feelings of not measuring up to standards. It is often subconscious, and is thought to drive afflicted individuals to overcompensate, resulting either in spectacular achievement or extremely asocial behavior.” – wikipedia

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Ben Zuehlsdorf says:

August 16, 2017 at 11:36 am

If your perpetual social media habits preclude human-to-human interactions you could, perhaps, re-evaluate your life choices. We don’t need a play-by-play of common life activities. I realize many people are introverts and come alive on camera but at a certain point you have to be balanced. Creating social media content and then saying “but it gets thousands of views” doesn’t necessarily mean it’s inspiring people, adding real value, or helping a brand. People can’t stop watching car crashes either. Despite the popular belief not all press is good press I believe.
There is a great bit by Louis CK about when he tried to watch his daughters stage performance and all he could see was all of the other parents phones. The kids are in 3D and hi-def! The kids are in 3D!

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Mike McK says:

August 16, 2017 at 11:39 am

I was a complete newbie to ultrarunning in 2014 and was so grateful for the training info I pulled from Sage’s VO2MAX videos. I was transported to amazing race locales and inspired by Billy Yang’s content. I went looking for gear reviews on Youtube and this one guy – Ginger Runner – kept popping up with good, practical knowledge.

As I became a fan of the sport, Jamil’s videos clued me in on who to watch for in upcoming races and captured some great snippets of races I would otherwise have only experienced through irunfar’s twitter feed (which is awesome). I recently got a kick out of Chris Mocko’s self- deprecating and goofy videos as he embarked on his quest for sponsorship (ok, fine – the Costco one did run a little long and I may not have finished it).

At TNFEC SF in December 2016, I saw Sage at the finish area talking at length with whomever approached him. Finally I approached him and introduced myself and thanked him for his content – he was a gracious guy asking about my race and sympathizing with my drop at McKennan Gulch. The video of the duel between Hayden Hawks and Zach Miller put out in the following days by some of these guys was flat out awesome!

I’m so appreciative of what these guys do and if they get a little goofy, self-indulgent, or whatever at times then so be it. I hope they all keep up the great work and commitment to the sport. This back of the pack runner’s life is the better for it.

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Chuck says:

August 16, 2017 at 1:58 pm

Just a suggestion, but maybe Mr.Geronimo and Mr.Trail Safety should go for a nice long run somewhere far away
Quit complaining/whining/blogging about others runners social media platforms/comments–on your own blog no less.
Ditch the computer for some trees and hills.

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Andrew says:

August 16, 2017 at 3:26 pm

Pro tips for Bobby:
1) Don’t say on your “About” page that you never run with a watch, phone or camera then use a photo of yourself wearing a watch as your blog banner.
2) Don’t link your Instagram profile which is filled with pics of yourself running then proceed to bash others by doing the same thing but in a different media channel.

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1. Chuck. says:
  
  August 16, 2017 at 3:45 pm
  
  Ha!
  
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2. Jamie Hobbs says:
  
  August 17, 2017 at 8:58 am
  
  Yeah, he never runs with a GPS, but his runs and pics end up on his Strava everyday: https://www.strava.com/athletes/4757181
  
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Conor O'Neill says:

August 17, 2017 at 12:37 am

I ran my first 50k in July and I’m looking forward to my first 50 mile before I’m 50. Two years ago I didn’t know ultra running existed. Then I found Ethan via googling “review of running shoe X” and discovered GRL. That led over time to finding Jamil & Schuyler, Sage, Billy Yang and most recently Mocko. Plus lots of others like iRunFar, Harry Jones, Al Humphreys, Wild Ginger, and guys running in Irish mountains or the Swedish snow, whose names I don’t even know.

I would never have crossed the start line if it wasn’t for the inspiration, images, laughs, knowledge and energy that they have all given me. Of course a lot of it is throwaway but so what? I get as much from some vlog episodes as I do from the high-production-quality mini movies.

They all make me want to run more and better. I just wanted to say thanks to them all and please keep it up. To quote YouTube’s greatest creator, Haters Back Off 🙂

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Teresa Smith says:

August 17, 2017 at 7:33 am

I’m torn on this. Without the pads the bra is more breathable. However I was running a summer trail marathon (out-and-back) with buckets filled with C-o-l-d water and sponges. Well that perks things up for awhile. What’s a woman to do? Hey guys do you mind the headlights on?

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AJW says:

August 18, 2017 at 5:16 am

Isn’t Bobby the same dude who wrote about the “post Krupicka climate”? What even is that? Oh well, part of the growth-of-the-sport and all that. Hope everyone gets in some good running this weekend.

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John Waite says:

August 18, 2017 at 8:14 pm

RE Spinning, I recently trained through a hip/glute injury with spinning and stairclimber (very little running), and finished strong at the Bigfoot 100k.

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