Ultramarathon Daily News, Wed, Mar 22

This looks like a pretty awesome opportunity to get any of NatGeo’s topo maps for free. What am I missing?

The marathon cheater sleuth dude caught someone else using a bib mule for a Boston BQ. Two questions I’ve got: How does he get turned on to these people? Secret emails that say “Pssst, I think Cindy just posted her gear shot on race morning, but I saw her at IKEA while the race was under way. Check it out.” Also, relative to field size, is there similar cheating in MUT events? I’m curious.

Trail runners join fight for public lands.

No ultramarathon content whatsoever: What’s your morning routine like? Here’s a snarky response to what we should be doing.

Should you run today? Check this handy flowchart to find out.

Do you know (or care?) where your beer is actually brewed?

This showed up on Twitter yesterday. Is Karl attempting another FKT or is this just a fun run?

4 days and I’ll be running on the AT again. #ATrecord #speedgoat Nothing better than the white blaze

— Karl Meltzer (@Speedgoatkarl) March 20, 2017

Looks like samples are available again for S-Fuels–you guys and gals blew through their last run in less than a week. Click the link in the right sidebar (or right here) to check out some healthy fueling options that will help you avoid the sugar spike and bonk.

Mario’s Morning Shakeout from yesterday (I stopped getting mine for some reason…had to re-subscribe) is a good one. I’m with Mario on the technology front: Where is the line that determines how much technology should influence performance? Tough one to answer. Ideas?

The guys over at Science of Sport have an opinion on it. Check it out here.

Elite Japanese distance coach verbally spars with self-coached Kawauchi in what I assume is a rare display of public animosity leading up to London Marathon.

Fifty years ago, this woman broke barriers for female distance running. I’ll admit, her story is new to me.

22 Responses to "Ultramarathon Daily News, Wed, Mar 22"

Todd says:

March 22, 2017 at 6:18 am

I think he is running the Georgia Death Race which is partly run on the Appalachian Trail.Reference

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1. Daniel says:
  
  March 22, 2017 at 6:23 am
  
  Georgia Death Race is April 1 so that is more than 4 days away. What other races are this weekend?
  
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  1. Daniel says:
    
    March 22, 2017 at 6:26 am
    
    Then again, his UltraSignup says he is signed up for GDR.
    
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2. Caleb says:
  
  March 22, 2017 at 11:00 am
  
  The GDR is not run on the AT. It is very close and finishes on the approach trail but none of the race is on the AT.
  
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Rich says:

March 22, 2017 at 6:32 am

The conversation between Seko and Kawauchi at the Japanese team meeting seemed quite civil to me, especially since Seko deferred to Kawauchi’s opinion at the end. This is quite the gesture given Seko’s legacy in Japan. He is not only an “elite coach,” but also one of the most successful—won Fukuoka 4x, Boston 2x, 2:08 PR—and famous Japanese marathoners in the country’s storied distance-running history. I recommend reading Michael Sandrock’s biography of him in “Running with the Legends.” Sandrock reports that Seko once logged 1,200km in eight days during a training trip in New Zealand, up from his typical 200+ miles per week. It is not surprising that Seko stated: “The marathon is my only girlfriend. I give her everything I have.”

For what it’s worth, Brett Larner, who provided the recap of the Seko/Kawauchi exchange, is the latter’s agent.

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1. Ben Zuehlsdorf says:
  
  March 22, 2017 at 8:17 am
  
  That was great to read. And I’m a big Kawauchi fan. Very civil exchange as it appears Brett was trying to draw us in with the headline. Kudos Mr. Journalist!
  
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2. SteelTownRunner says:
  
  March 22, 2017 at 8:39 am
  
  The London race they refer to is not the London Marathon in April, it the IAAF track & field world champs this summer to be held in London, which include, the WC marathon.
  
  Also, the headline is slightly misleading. Seko, an authority in his own right, and an important administrative figure is clearly – on whatever level – an advocate of Yuki Kawauchi’s, especially if he expressed hope to see him in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. From the description of the dialogue, I think some of the contention got lost in translation.
  
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3. eric schranz says:
  
  March 22, 2017 at 9:18 am
  
  Thanks for the additional info Rich. I’ll pick up the book.
  
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Andrew says:

March 22, 2017 at 6:35 am

There has to be some cases of cheating in ultrarunning but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s much less than in marathons. Ultrarunning is still a niche sport despite its increase in popularity and I think most of us feel cheated inside if we don’t actually complete the course ourselves. When I first started ultrarunning I did a two loop 50k and on the second loop realized that I had takes the wrong course the first time. My watch still showed 31ish miles and I didn’t intentionally cheat but it still lingers with me years later. I have a bad taste in my mouth that I don’t know if it is a legitimate finish or not. I imagine most other Ultrarunners would feel the same as I do. So while I’m sure it is present I bet it is less common.

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Meghan Kennihan says:

March 22, 2017 at 6:46 am

I’m confused… so that girl posted stuff all along about her training and going to the expo and what she was going to eat… then gave her BIB to a guy to run for her…then after the race got the medal and the bib from him and took a pic of herself that she finished?

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  March 22, 2017 at 9:19 am
  
  Apparently. Weird people out there.
  
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Brad D says:

March 22, 2017 at 6:53 am

I’m wondering if he isn’t running the NOBO since he caught “flak” for running SOBO the last time. Probably wants both FKT’s. KARL’S A CERTIFIED BADASS if that’s the caseReference

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1. scott says:
  
  March 22, 2017 at 8:25 am
  
  No one in the FKT world gave him flak for going sobo. That was purely from the running community who doesn’t understand how they work and who mostly only heard of FKTs in the last year or two.
  He’s been attempting the AT for years so I really doubt he was influenced to go nobo, too, for any reason.
  
  Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems more likely he’s just training on the AT for the GDR if he actually is running it.
  
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  1. Brad D says:
    
    March 22, 2017 at 9:57 am
    
    I agree. There will always be “haters” who don’t understand what kind of toll it takes on people and just want to be a-holes 🙂
    
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  2. kcf says:
    
    March 22, 2017 at 10:02 am
    
    He has said he wanted to scout out the GDR this year in hopes of running it next year for a golden ticket into WS so that he can then attempt to get the 50 age group record there.
    
    Posted on his fb page “Time to head east again next week to hang on the AT and prepare for the Georgia Death Race. Someone told me it’s supposed to be hard, so I figured I’d show up. #hokaoneone #deathrace #GDR #redbull #speedgoat”
    
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    1. eric schranz says:
      
      March 22, 2017 at 10:16 am
      
      Ah, I missed that. Thanks.
      
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      1. Jason g says:
        
        March 22, 2017 at 1:30 pm
        
        He crushed the “hard” section of the death race when he set the CR for Cruel Jewel 100 ( they both share the same route for 25 miles )- We can’t wait to have Karl back in the mountains of Georgia !
Andy R says:

March 22, 2017 at 6:56 am

No catch at this time anyway. You actually posted this same maps site in the past year 🙂Reference

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Nelson says:

March 22, 2017 at 7:41 am

I’ve just found out Killian is running UTMB this year. Will this help Zach Miller pick UTMB over Hardrock? Of course, Killian will run both races, but Miller has unfinished business at UTMB and Walmsley will also be there. It now seems the logical choice.

Killian’s season looks pretty busy, though: Mont Blanc Marathon, Sierre Zinal, UTMB, Glen Coe, Ultra Pirineu, Everest, among other things.

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1. Nelson says:
  
  March 22, 2017 at 7:42 am
  
  Forgot to include Hardrock in that list.
  
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Neil Richard says:

March 22, 2017 at 8:04 am

I guess as long as Karl is done with his AT “hike” by October, I’ll have a chance of seeing him at the OC100.

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Paul beck says:

March 22, 2017 at 8:25 pm

With the beer being made at other places it’s like when Sierra Nevada opened their brewery in NC. It’s not the same. You can definitely get it within “limits” and have same taste and look because they are based off recipes. So not surprising AB InBev makes beers all over the place. They need massive quantities and have to ship all over country. It’s the way of big business. Same with food. Small food companies may make their own stuff and then when they go national they usually send their recipe to a Food Packer who makes it for them. That’s typically why people who follow certain food say they don’t like it as much when they all of a sudden go national. It’s because the qualities actually goes down because someone else is making it in mass quantities.

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