Ultramarathon Daily News, Wed, Mar 23

Ultramarathon News

A response to some ultramarathon and trail forums that have got a little out of hand. Well said, Flint.

Hop varieties, in order of suitability as names for heavy metal bands.

As far as I know, she’s the first ultramarathon gal to appear in Glamour Magazine. Who is it? Don’t peek!

ultramarathon trail running trails montana de bro — Seaside trails in Montana de Oro, San Luis Obispo.

Trail running in San Luis Obispo. Ack! Nothing from Montana de Oro? Are you kidding me???

I’ll release our Jason Schlarb interview today. Here’s a preview from the guys at TAUR.

My eyes hurt from rolling them so much. What a lame article.

This is something I wish I’d done: Set up a time trail on a short local trail and run it every week for the past ten years. I’d love to see how my fitness has changed.

Have you seen the entrant list to Lake Sonoma? Holy cow! The fellas will be fun to watch, but the exciting race will be with the ladies. Camille Herron‘s first trail fifty, Amelia Boone‘s first trail fifty–either of them could win it–then you mix in the experience of Magda, Kaci, Emily, Kami, and a dozen other fast women…oooooey! This’ll be fun to watch.

Inside the life of a teenage professional runner.

Short news day. Gotta produce the Schlarb interview and get it out. Stay tuned.

16 Responses to "Ultramarathon Daily News, Wed, Mar 23"

Andy R says:

March 23, 2016 at 6:45 am

Waiting for this one!Reference

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lj says:

March 23, 2016 at 7:06 am

who are these elites putting down slower runners? I’ve never seen or read that anywhere?Reference

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1. Alex says:
  
  March 23, 2016 at 7:10 am
  
  I haven’t either, though I’m sure it happens. I do think citing your sources is important in these cases though; otherwise you’re writing a vague call-out post about everyone and no one.
  
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  1. eric schranz says:
    
    March 23, 2016 at 7:15 am
    
    I believe he’s referencing some posts on the Trail and Ultra Running Facebook page where some members had an elitist attitude towards sub-ultra distances. Not elite athletes, but elite distances. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
    
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    1. Scott Towle says:
      
      March 23, 2016 at 2:52 pm
      
      or maybe he spend about 2.5 seconds on letsrun.
      
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Mario says:

March 23, 2016 at 10:18 am

Eric, my bias is slightly slanted here, but did you read the intro copy? It was a set route that hit three predetermined peaks: https://slocode.wordpress.com/tag/tri-tip-challenge/Reference

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1. Mario says:
  
  March 23, 2016 at 10:45 am
  
  Quick update: High School Hill was substituted for Cal Poly P “because it’s steeper, higher and makes the overall trip a couple miles longer.” Montana de Oro was a bit out of the way—but looks amazing!
  
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2. eric schranz says:
  
  March 23, 2016 at 3:39 pm
  
  Copy? I’m supposed to ready words??? Yeah, missed that. 🙁
  
  But, but!
  
  They’re STILL not showing Montana de Oro! As far as I know, it’s the only part of SLO that actually hosts trail races. (Haven’t lived there in 15 years, so a bit rusty…)
  
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Brandi says:

March 23, 2016 at 10:30 am

A couple of things-

1. It was the TAUR facebook page.

2. For Eric-I completely mean this in the spirit of discussion and understanding. You posted quite a bit ago, a video from a guy saying that if you couldn’t complete a marathon in 6 hours, you probably shouldn’t do a marathon. And you said you saw his point and in a podcast, even said that if you couldn’t do a 50K in under 8 hours, you probably shouldn’t do a 50K.

Well I did a 50K in 8 hours and honestly, until you said that, it hadn’t occured to me that I should feel bad about that. After all, I was 2 hours UNDER the time cut off so it’s not like I was stressing the aid stations because they were scheduled to be out there quite a while after I passed them anyway. To me it seems that sentiment doesn’t jibe with the attitude you are supporting in this article of support and encouragement to ALL and I guess I’d like to understand better.Reference

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1. eric schranz says:
  
  March 23, 2016 at 3:35 pm
  
  Brandi-
  
  Thanks for writing, and a very fair question at that. I’ve been noodling this through my head all day, but can’t find the original post. I don’t even remember the author (or a video?)
  
  Not that it’ll necessarily help my likely-hypocritical response, but I’d like to see it first.
  
  Any help?
  
  eric
  
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  1. Brandi says:
    
    March 25, 2016 at 6:47 am
    
    Eric, thanks so much for replying-it was at the end of the Amelia Boone interview when you went over the top stories of the week.
    
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    1. redacted says:
      
      March 25, 2016 at 11:00 am
      
      Much like Tim Tollefson’s tongue in cheek article that was taken down, that original article from Runsteady was removed as well. This site referenced it a bit: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=539252
      
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Ryan says:

March 23, 2016 at 12:04 pm

That attitude is definitely out there. I’ve yet to experience with anyone I’ve met, but I’ve seen it in the media for sure. Just one example- a few months ago, Competitor magazine ran an interview with former American marathon record holder Steve Jones. He was complaining about the state of running and “all these people who run 4 hour marathons or 25 minute 5ks,” because, he said, “To me, that’s not running.”

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TheDude says:

March 23, 2016 at 1:20 pm

The attitude has also popped up recently in the Lance debate. If a mid-packer says, “who cares, let Lance runs,” invariably you get an “elite” responding with “well, if you were losing a podium spot, you’d care.” There was also a recent fb post that mentioned if you don’t care about Lance then you’re not really pushing yourself and are medicore.

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Brandi says:

March 23, 2016 at 1:56 pm

I think there’s a big difference between not wanting run against a known cheater because for the elites, that’s not playing fair (I am not an elite and I completely understand and support that sentiment) and dismissing and diminishing some random midpacker because their time wasn’t ‘quick enough’ or whatever. Those midpackers are playing fair and as long as they follow the rules of the race, who cares what time they come in? Lance, for a VERY long time, didn’t play by the rules and can’t be trusted so I understand not wanting him in a race.

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1. TheDude says:
  
  March 23, 2016 at 2:04 pm
  
  I understand there is a lot of passion around the debate (and I haven’t let you know which side of the fence I am on), but the below the surface elitism shines through when an elite dismisses someone’s argument or position because they are not an elite. The Lance issue merely gives some insight into what some elites may really think of mid-packers. btw – Lance is not an elite in this sport either.
  
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